Cameras in the classroom

Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 10:24AM

 

Canfield schools recently began to to put cameras in their schools.

[www.vindy.com]

While I see these measures as a positive step forward in the area of security I would encourage them to go further and put cameras in the classrooms too, to help with discipline problems.

All too often disruptive student can escape responsibility for their actions with simple denials: “I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, you can´t prove anything.” There would be a lot more learning going on if we could prove the wrongdoers. We don’t need more spaces where people can act poorly without consequences.

Bill Gates has a $5 billion dollar plan to put a camera in every classroom in the country for teacher evaluation.

[www.takepart.com]

I support the plan, not only as a tool to help evaluate teachers but mostly as a way to catch trouble makers. Short-term its the best way to return our schools to a place of learning.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: NoBS (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 11:33AM

 

As long as the motive is to better educate the students, I’m (at least cautiously) for it. It’s a two-edged sword – we have more government intrusion versus improving the quality of education by exposing and hopefully correcting flaws in the classroom, be they ineffective teaching, undisciplined students, outside influences, or whatever. If the motive is to look for ways to fire good teachers (and replace them with cheaper / more complacent hires) or anything like that, then stick the cameras.

I do agree, though, that having a video record would put a stop to spoiled brats going home and saying “that mean ol’ teacher is picking on me/doesn’t like me! I didn’t do nothin’!!”

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 12:17PM

 

This is another one of those ideas will cost a fortune and improve practically nothing. It has the added bonus of fulfilling Orwell’s vision which, and I’m not sure everyone on the left was aware of this, was meant as a cautionary satire rather than an expression of his desire.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: hindsight2040 (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 12:26PM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
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> Canfield schools recently began to to put cameras
> in their schools.
>
> [www.vindy.com]
> rades-security-measures/
>
> While I see these measures as a positive step
> forward in the area of security I would encourage
> them to go further and put cameras in the
> classrooms too, to help with discipline problems.
>
>
> All too often disruptive student can escape
> responsibility for their actions with simple
> denials: “I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, you
> can´t prove anything.” There would be a lot more
> learning going on if we could prove the
> wrongdoers. We don’t need more spaces where people
> can act poorly without consequences.
>
> Bill Gates has a $5 billion dollar plan to put a
> camera in every classroom in the country for
> teacher evaluation.
>
> [www.takepart.com]
> tes-5-billion-put-camera-every-classroom
>
> I support the plan, not only as a tool to help
> evaluate teachers but mostly as a way to catch
> trouble makers. Short-term its the best way to
> return our schools to a place of learning.

What exactly was your rank in the Gestapo? So Gates thinks putting cameras in the classroom to be used as a teacher evaluation tool is a good thing, huh! Sorry, but I don’t agree. Leave it to the building principals and make them do their jobs. Find a way to force the Supt. to quit giving those principal jobs to all of his drinking buddies and ex coaches. Not all do this, but too many are!

Putting cameras there to aid in discipline is an idea which needs more consideration and thought, as I have heard that what you said about denying guilt is just what goes on and many principals are way too quick to side with the students.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: capedcrusader (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 01:34PM

 

I agree, Gary. Good idea. Especially when a substitute teacher steps in and the kiddies think time to see what we can get away with. Offers the real teacher a chance to review the class sessions and behavior for evaluation. Not likely disciplinary measures will be imposed anyway, however, since an act of congress is needed to remove disruptives from the class. The voice of experience speaking here. I am in favor of kicking student’s asses and asking questions later. I’ll check that box if it ever comes up for vote because the inmates are running the asylum.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Minimalist2 (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 02:31PM

 

“Gestapo”: Not quite Godwin’s law, but a good start.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: hindsight2040 (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 02:44PM

 

Minimalist2 Wrote:
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> “Gestapo”: Not quite Godwin’s law, but a good
> start.

Silly law no matter how you look at it.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 04:06PM

 

I thought teachers were against evaluations?

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Minimalist2 (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 04:09PM

 

I think a lot of them are against the way they are evaluated, so perhaps a lot of them would welcome this, I dunno.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: capedcrusader (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 04:37PM

 

I thought teachers were against evaluations

I am talking about the primary teacher reviewing the substitute teacher’s covering the quantity of prescribed subject matter so the primary teacher will know what was and what wasn’t covered. Also, the students are apt to better behavior knowing they are on camera and primary teacher will observe. The primary teacher’s threat of a study hall and book report instead of a Christmas party is a reward good behavior and punish bad behavior response.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 07:20PM

 

NoBS Wrote:
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> If the motive is to look
> for ways to fire good teachers (and replace them
> with cheaper / more complacent hires) or anything
> like that, then stick the cameras.

Well if they’re really good teachers then they have nothing to fear from cameras. But I agree to a point; its not the technology but the mindset of the people using it.

> I do agree, though, that having a video record
> would put a stop to spoiled brats going home and
> saying “that mean ol’ teacher is picking on
> me/doesn’t like me! I didn’t do nothin’!!”

An’t-it the truth.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: NoBS (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 07:41PM

 

Gary, giving up rights because one shouldn’t be doing something anyway is a dangerous practice.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 10:18PM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
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>
>
> Well if they’re really good teachers then they
> have nothing to fear from cameras.

And if you’re not a terrorist you shouldn’t care that the NSA is monitoring your phone calls, text messages, and emails…right?

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 11:00PM

 

MGB Wrote:
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> This is another one of those ideas will cost a
> fortune and improve practically nothing.

Actually the cost today of adding a web camera to a classroom is very low. And the limited practical experience suggests cameras in the classroom improve security.

[www.nytimes.com]

Of course Biloxi, Miss. is not known for discipline problems in its schools. One wonders the effect cameras would have on a troubled school system like, say, Youngstown OH?

> It has
> the added bonus of fulfilling Orwell’s vision
> which, and I’m not sure everyone on the left was
> aware of this, was meant as a cautionary satire
> rather than an expression of his desire.

Oh I quite sure everyone on the left knows exactly what Orwell was on about, and its not an indictment of technology but the mindset of those who control it. In 1984 the technology was controlled by the state. In 2014 its the students who will be up-loading the classroom videos to the web.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 04, 2014 11:07PM

 

NoBS Wrote:
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> Gary, giving up rights because one shouldn’t be
> doing something anyway is a dangerous practice.

And what rights would that be? There is no expectation of privacy in a classroom full of people. Its not like the NSA monitoring your phone calls, text messages, and emails… right?

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: NoBS (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 08:07AM

 

Did you really just say that, immediately below your exchange with MGB??

There’s no expectation of privacy on public roads, so speed cams are welcome, because you shouldn’t be speeding – not a single mph over the limit, ever, under any circumstances. Right?

You said “Well if they’re really good teachers then they have nothing to fear from cameras.” That’s like saying ‘if you’re a really good person, you have nothing to fear from the Spanish Inquisition.’

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: gammaray (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 08:51AM

 

Cameras are on school busses facing the riders, cameras in a classroom will face the students, audio is not part of it, so teachers would only be seen in interactions with students where they sit.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 09:22AM

 

NoBS Wrote:
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> Did you really just say that, immediately below
> your exchange with MGB??
>
> There’s no expectation of privacy on public roads,
> so speed cams are welcome, because you shouldn’t
> be speeding – not a single mph over the limit,
> ever, under any circumstances. Right?
>
> You said “Well if they’re really good teachers
> then they have nothing to fear from cameras.”
> That’s like saying ‘if you’re a really good
> person, you have nothing to fear from the Spanish
> Inquisition.’

Well, like I’ve been trying to say, cameras only record, they don’t judge. Its people in power that do the judging, and if the people in power are unaccountable, religious or political fanatics, the problem is not the cameras, its the people in power.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 09:49AM

 

gammaray Wrote:
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> Cameras are on school busses facing the riders,
> cameras in a classroom will face the students,
> audio is not part of it, so teachers would only be
> seen in interactions with students where they sit.

Cameras on school buses have caused some dramatic changes in rider behavior. But there is a political aspect to camera in the classroom. When you suggest the problem is unruly kids other want to blame the teachers. It wont happen unless both can be observed.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: NoBS (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 09:53AM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
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>
> Well, like I’ve been trying to say, cameras only
> record, they don’t judge. Its people in power that
> do the judging, and if the people in power are
> unaccountable, religious or political fanatics,
> the problem is not the cameras, its the people in
> power.

Cameras only record, true. But there’s no guarantee that they record ALL of what’s going on. Things just off-camera may appear to be one thing, while in fact are another. Look at all the debate that went on regarding the theater shooting in Florida, where the ‘players’ were right at the edge of the security cam footage.

Cameras in the classroom, or on school buses, can do a lot of good, properly used. But the potential to be abused by agenda-driven people is great, too. That’s why in my initial post, I said I was cautiously for the idea. But I’d want an agreement in writing before they were installed, as a safeguard for both sides against abuse.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 10:11AM

 

NoBS Wrote:
——————————————————-
> Gary_Rosati Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
>
> >
> > Well, like I’ve been trying to say, cameras
> only
> > record, they don’t judge. Its people in power
> that
> > do the judging, and if the people in power are
> > unaccountable, religious or political fanatics,
> > the problem is not the cameras, its the people
> in
> > power.
>
>
> Cameras only record, true. But there’s no
> guarantee that they record ALL of what’s going on.
> Things just off-camera may appear to be one thing,
> while in fact are another. Look at all the debate
> that went on regarding the theater shooting in
> Florida, where the ‘players’ were right at the
> edge of the security cam footage.
>
> Cameras in the classroom, or on school buses, can
> do a lot of good, properly used. But the potential
> to be abused by agenda-driven people is great,
> too. That’s why in my initial post, I said I was
> cautiously for the idea. But I’d want an agreement
> in writing before they were installed, as a
> safeguard for both sides against abuse.

Yeah, sure, nothing is perfect and just about any system can be abused.

So, what language would you want in the agreement?

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: yannibgoode (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 10:36AM

 

Posted by: MGB … It has the added bonus of fulfilling Orwell’s vision which, and I’m not sure everyone on the left was aware of this, was meant as a cautionary satire rather than an expression of his desire.

I’m no expert on either Orwell or 1984 though I probably read the book 3 or 4 times. Yet that said, I can truthfully say that I never (with my confessed limited knowledge) heard it refereed to as a satire.”Cautionary” often, “satire” never. Nor have I ever seen where the book was considered “An expression of his desire”. Orwell was on the left, I’m on the left so MGB, you’re going to have to school me on these (new to me) revelations.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: NoBS (IP Logged)

Date: April 05, 2014 10:44AM

 

I’d want clear language regarding what the video would be used for, and what was out of bounds. As I said earlier, used to show the parents of the troublemakers what their progeny are up to in class, when the parents come demanding the teacher’s head because little Johnny or Suzy got an F, is a good thing. Forcing the older (read that as top of the pay scale) teacher out by willful misinterpretation of “evidence” on video, not so much. I would expect negotiation from both the teachers and the administration, resulting in an agreement both sides could live with. Not necessarily one that the uninformed public has any meaningful direct input into. If the public has an issue they want addressed, they’re free to talk to their elected officials – that’s how our system works.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 06, 2014 11:18PM

 

yannibgoode Wrote:
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> Posted by: MGB … It has the added bonus of
> fulfilling Orwell’s vision which, and I’m not sure
> everyone on the left was aware of this, was meant
> as a cautionary satire rather than an expression
> of his desire.
>
>
> I’m no expert on either Orwell or 1984 though I
> probably read the book 3 or 4 times. Yet that
> said, I can truthfully say that I never (with my
> confessed limited knowledge) heard it refereed to
> as a satire.
“Cautionary” often, “satire” never.

As a broader definition of the word (i.e. irony, exaggeration, ridicule) I think it fits. It lacks the humor that we typically expect from satire, so perhaps I should have been a little more clear in my meaning.

> Nor have I ever seen where the book was considered
> “An expression of his desire”.

No, of course it wasn’t at all an expression of his desire. I was saying that tongue-in-cheek, as if to assert that there are some who perhaps read it and misunderstood the message and rather took it as a literal ideal rather than an excoriating dystopian tale.

Orwell was on the
> left, I’m on the left so MGB, you’re going to have
> to school me on these (new to me) revelations.

I was being hyperbolic. I don’t believe that large swaths of the population misunderstood the underlying theme, but I was merely musing that Orwell–who as you said was quite a bit on the left–would likely be aghast at our times if he were to be woken from his mortal slumber and saw what the modern version of the left has become. You guys (I hope you don’t mind but I’ve taken the liberty of using you as an example of the “old left”) used to be about truth, equality, and fighting for those who were being screwed by a system littered with racism, sexism, homophobia, and all other manner of political ills. Now the modern left has completely lost all control. Frankly one can draw a parallel between the divergence from the norm of both the hard left and the hard right. Everyone has become deeply polarized and the loudest voices, which ALWAYS come from the fringe, are all that’s heard. Read the editorial from the WSJ this weekend about the “sit in” (I use that term veeeeery loosely) at Dartmouth. The modern leftist operating on the Ivy League campus bears nearly no resemblance to the movement that you were part of all those years ago. You guys faced arrest, abuse, and ridicule for your dedication to your (mostly laudable) cause. These kids? The college president basically took their ultimatum and said “sure, what the Hell?”. It wasn’t high-minded debate or a deeply philosophical discussion about who we are and what we care about, it was a sterilized version of extortion. Read the piece, please. I’d love to hear your reaction to it.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Minimalist2 (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 06:53AM

 

A handful of kids at Dartmouth does not a movement make.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: JimmyHendricks (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 08:33AM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
——————————————————-
> Canfield schools recently began to to put cameras
> in their schools.
>
> [www.vindy.com]
> rades-security-measures/
>
> While I see these measures as a positive step
> forward in the area of security I would encourage
> them to go further and put cameras in the
> classrooms too, to help with discipline problems.
>
>
> All too often disruptive student can escape
> responsibility for their actions with simple
> denials: “I didn’t do it, nobody saw me do it, you
> can´t prove anything.” There would be a lot more
> learning going on if we could prove the
> wrongdoers. We don’t need more spaces where people
> can act poorly without consequences.
>
> Bill Gates has a $5 billion dollar plan to put a
> camera in every classroom in the country for
> teacher evaluation.
>
> [www.takepart.com]
> tes-5-billion-put-camera-every-classroom
>
> I support the plan, not only as a tool to help
> evaluate teachers but mostly as a way to catch
> trouble makers. Short-term its the best way to
> return our schools to a place of learning.

The teachers unions will fight that tooth and nail. They want no part of teacher ratings. Protecting the bad teachers is part of their MO. The kids are secondary.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 02:27PM

 

Minimalist2 Wrote:
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> A handful of kids at Dartmouth does not a movement
> make.

That’s how it starts. It was started by one professor and now it’s grown to dozens of students. Think that professor isn’t going to keep fanning the flames? Think he’s not going to get a fresh crop of willing, pliable minds in his classroom every term? One man can be just as dangerous as thousands of men.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 02:29PM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
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>>
> Well, like I’ve been trying to say, cameras only
> record, they don’t judge.

There’s almost no way you could be more wrong. Go ahead and Google “Rodney King” and see what happens when cameras are present and give people the opportunity to interpret what they see.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: NoBS (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 03:20PM

 

In a strictly clinical sense, Gary is right. The camera is a tool that records. It makes no judgements. But humans using that tool need to remember its limitations, among them that the camera may not have recorded the entire event or the entire scene at the event. And once humans start to interpret what the camera recorded, the objectivity of the inanimate object is lost.

In the Rodney King case, the cameras recorded what the humans using them wanted to record. The humans in the courtroom should have been allowed to point out that the cameras did not record the entire incident. Reacting to only what was on those cameras was akin to allowing emotions to decide the outcome instead of critical thought.

The camera is a tool, nothing else. Sometimes humans with an agenda use tools to advance their agendas.

 

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Posted by: Minimalist2 (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 03:57PM

 

I don’t think the kids at Dartmouth “speak” for anyone but themselves. They come across as spoiled brats that wouldn’t know oppression if it bit them in their collective azz.

They are being ridiculed by almost everyone as far as I can tell. College kids do stupid things and have always been a bit delusional about their role. They are bored and they feel like there is no great “cause” they can get behind, so they do something silly (a manifesto with 70+ points!!) like this.

Didn’t mean to take camera thread off topic.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: BadDream (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 04:44PM

 

I think we can all agree that judgment is in the eye of the beholder and that the camera its self does not judge what it records. Ask Reginal Denny how he feels about it.

That’s not the big picture here. Just how many places are you people going to allow the powers above to watch your every move from the time you leave your house? Cameras don’t belong in any classrooms. Give the power back to the teachers to control their own classrooms and respect their decisions.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: MGB (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 08:24PM

 

BadDream Wrote:
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>
>
> That’s not the big picture here. Just how many
> places are you people going to allow the powers
> above to watch your every move from the time you
> leave your house? Cameras don’t belong in any
> classrooms. Give the power back to the teachers to
> control their own classrooms and respect their
> decisions.

This. All day long.

 

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Posted by: JimmyHendricks (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 09:15PM

 

Cameras are a fact of life and you can’t make a move without being on one. Also, your communications are monitored and recorded.

Orwell’s version of the future is here. Funny how many of you are more than willing to give up your CONstitutional right to privacy for the mirage of safety.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 10:40PM

 

BadDream Wrote:
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> That’s not the big picture here. Just how many
> places are you people going to allow the powers
> above to watch your every move from the time you
> leave your house? Cameras don’t belong in any
> classrooms.

This is hyperbole. No one is suggesting we should have 24/7 surveillance of all public places. The issue is cameras in the classroom, a public place where incidents of harassment, bulling, theft, and assault are common and well documented. Yet the sad truth is that many of these crimes go unpunished for lack of evidence.

The big picture here is right out our front door. Its this town, this Youngstown; it has become little more than a ghost-town. Its once busy streets now empty and trash strewn. Its once proud homes abandoned or razed. Its once productive businesses boarded-up and left to rot.

A big part of that decline is the terrible reputation of the Youngstown City Schools. No one wants to send their kids there. The enrollment dwindles each year. That reputation is a huge anchor around the neck of this town, our town, preventing it from ever bouncing back. If we ever are going to see a change for the better for this town then it has to start with the schools. And it has to be something big, something drastic, something newsworthy and controversial even, something to get people across the country to sit-up and take notice, and talking… about us. That thing is cameras in the classroom, both for student behavior and teacher evaluation.

> Give the power back to the teachers to
> control their own classrooms and respect their
> decisions.

Sure, just as soon as we give them eyes in the back of their head.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 10:48PM

 

JimmyHendricks Wrote:
————————
> Funny how
> many of you are more than willing to give up your
> CONstitutional right to privacy for the mirage of
> safety.

As it should be obvious to everyone, there is no right to privacy in a crowded room.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Hemingway (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 10:54PM

 

I can’t believe I’m typing this, but I agree 100% with Gary on this one.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: Gary_Rosati (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 11:30PM

 

MGB Wrote:
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> Gary_Rosati Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> >>
> > Well, like I’ve been trying to say, cameras
> only
> > record, they don’t judge.
>
>
> There’s almost no way you could be more wrong. Go
> ahead and Google “Rodney King” and see what
> happens when cameras are present and give people
> the opportunity to interpret what they see.

Rodney King was all about venue and jury selection. As I said before, no system is perfect. And while the video may have been discounted by the jury it was enough to condemn the offices involved in the arena of public opinion.

 

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Posted by: Hemingway (IP Logged)

Date: April 07, 2014 11:38PM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
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> MGB Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > Gary_Rosati Wrote:
> >
> ————————————————–
>
> > —–
> > >>
> > > Well, like I’ve been trying to say, cameras
> > only
> > > record, they don’t judge.
> >
> >
> > There’s almost no way you could be more wrong.
> Go
> > ahead and Google “Rodney King” and see what
> > happens when cameras are present and give
> people
> > the opportunity to interpret what they see.
>
> Rodney King was all about venue and jury
> selection. As I said before, no system is perfect.
> And while the video may have been discounted by
> the jury it was enough to condemn the offices
> involved in the arena of public opinion.

Plus, if the camera began recording at the beginning of class to the end of class it would cover the entire period. There wouldn’t be the danger of it catching something in the middle of an event.

Police cruisers have cameras directed at the view in their windshield. Walk into a 7/11 and you’re on camera. Walk into a mall or virtually any store and you’re on camera. Why should a classroom full of students be off limits to cameras?

There is no expectation of privacy in a classroom. And, thus, there is no reason why a class couldn’t be recorded.

By the way, a camera could be used to exonerate the innocent as much as it could be used to find the guilty. And it could also be a way to protect teachers from false accusations.

 

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: JimmyHendricks (IP Logged)

Date: April 08, 2014 06:33AM

 

Gary_Rosati Wrote:
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> JimmyHendricks Wrote:
> ————————
> > Funny how
> > many of you are more than willing to give up
> your
> > CONstitutional right to privacy for the mirage
> of
> > safety.
>
> As it should be obvious to everyone, there is no
> right to privacy in a crowded room.

Not any more, but there was for a few hundred years and by privacy, I mean the right not to be video taped 24 by 7.

I’m sorry Mr CON, but we have tape of you picking your nose in 8th grade and that is the type of behavior we do not tolerate here at Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe.

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Re: Cameras in the classroom

Posted by: gammaray (IP Logged)

Date: April 08, 2014 08:52AM

 

With those nails they probably notified the Center for Disease Control, unless you licked them clean afterwards.

Stooloperator Wrote:
——————————————————-
> Gary_Rosati Wrote:
> ————————————————–
> —–
> > JimmyHendricks Wrote:
> > ————————
> > > Funny how
> > > many of you are more than willing to give up
> > your
> > > CONstitutional right to privacy for the
> mirage
> > of
> > > safety.
> >
> > As it should be obvious to everyone, there is
> no
> > right to privacy in a crowded room.
>
>
> Not any more, but there was for a few hundred
> years and by privacy, I mean the right not to be
> video taped 24 by 7.
>
> I’m sorry Mr CON, but we have tape of you picking
> your nose in 8th grade and that is the type of
> behavior we do not tolerate here at Dewey,
> Cheatum, and Howe.

 

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